scientific wrote:Hi there!
There ist wayland which should replace X11. And i read some articles about wayland. So i recognized, that, if X11 is gone, fvwm isn't needed any longer...
This is the way all window manager based on xlib will go
scientific wrote:So, why do i need wayland?
You don't. As the wayland FAQ said
It could replace X as the native Linux graphics server, but I'm sure X will always be there on the side. I imagine that Wayland and X will coexist in two ways on a Linux desktop: ... host several X servers as they push their root window to Wayland as surfaces. The compositor in this case will be a dedicated session switcher that will cross-fade between X servers or spin them on a cube.
Further down the road we run a user session natively under Wayland with clients written for Wayland. There will still (always) be X applications to run, but we now run these under a root-less X server that is itself a client of the Wayland server. ... or running a composited X desktop, where the compositor is a Wayland client, pushing the composited desktop to Wayland.
So from that point I think xorg will be shipped a long period of time with most distributions
scientific wrote:And what is the Future of Fvwm, when the big Distributions think, they need Wayland, because many new Applications are based on Wayland, and X11 dies.
There're three possiblilities:
1. Someone starts to exchange xlib in FVWM. But this is a complete rewrite of FVWM ...
2. Someone starts to developing a new FVWM based on the reference Compositor Weston and transfer the complete command structure into it. Or, what is better try to create a new structure of commands as discussed on the mailing lists for FVWM3 / google summer of code and write a conversion tool for FVWM2 configs if possible.
3. Use FVWM with X11 as long as possible xorg will be shipped with a distribution.
scientific wrote:What are your (the developers of Fvwm) thoughts about this future?
I can only speak for me and I think that most of us developers haven't enough time to lift weights like that. I've discussed the second point with a friend of mine and it would a interest challange but without a good planing and enough manpower it is impossible/takes too long to develop a new FVWM based on Weston.
scientific wrote:and Should Linux really became a new Windows, where the graphical system is part of the system? Only one graphical interface, where i can only change the color of the background???
At the moment you have the same - one graphical system => X11. With the wayland architecture you have the same different graphical interfaces as now. See here
. Ok not so many as on X but this will grow over the years.
- Thomas -
[Edit:] I found minutes ago a very interessting article: The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland